Why are my piggies getting sick?

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Renonvsparky

Post   » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:58 pm


No issues with chewing. I'm not giving him too much carrots anymore. I only mentioned it as a reference to the sheer amount he's was eating before he got sick as compared to how much he eats now. He'll eat most of a regular sized lettuce leaf and a few bites of a bell pepper at night. He'll eat fresh grass, although I don't give him a whole bunch of it. Same with the parsley. I'm pushing the Timothy hay, but he isn't as interested in it as he was before the infection.

Still going on with the probiotic and vitamin C. His weight is 2 pounds, 2 and a half ounces this morning. About half an ounce less than his weight at the vet which was taken in the afternoon. His weight is staying between 2 lbs, 4 ounces and 2 pounds, 2 ounces.

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sef1268
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Post   » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:11 pm


What about pellets?

Renonvsparky

Post   » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:45 pm


Also, the pellets I'm giving them are the Oxbow brand. Neither Scruffy or Mr. Bubbles will touch them. With Mr. Bubbles, I don't worry about it because he eats a ton of timothy hay and he eats his bell peppers and lettuce. He's right where he needs to be with his diet, weight, water intake and droppings. Scruffy, on the other hand, needs to eat more pellets. When I put him in his run area, I put a handful of pellets and hay with him and he eats a few pellets and some hay, but nowhere near what he used to. He doesn't seem to have any issues chewing. He chews on the toys I have hanging for him to keep his teeth down.

Maybe he is getting enough food since his weight hasn't drastically changed. He's always been noticeably smaller than Mr. Bubbles and a lot less aggressive. He is very resistant and he is a very curious little guy, which might explain why he and Mr. Bubbles can't share a habitat.

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sef1268
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Post   » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:58 pm


It's difficult for a guinea pig to get all of the nutrients that he/she needs from hay and a few veggies alone. At some point, you run the risk of some sort of deficiency, and that can cause a whole host of other issues. Might be worth trying KMS Hayloft, which is another brand that many members here use. I know there are members here who feed little or no pellets due to issues with bladder stones or other health concerns, but they have to be very careful and offer a wide variety of vegetables (and I assume supplements) to make sure the guinea pig is getting more than just vitamin C. Just something to keep in mind.

I'm sorry that Scruffy continues to be a reluctant eater.

Renonvsparky

Post   » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:10 am


Scruffy isn't losing any weight, so maybe he's eating more than I'm giving him credit for. I'm going mostly off of the amount of his veggies he eats. He used to eat all of them when I gave them to him but he only eats around half now. There's always plenty of hay in his cage and I add a handful several times a day, so he might be filling up on it slowly throughout the day and night.

I've been paying closer attention today and I noticed that he is eating hay. It's hard to tell from looking at the piles of it exactly how much he's eating and how much he's spreading around and stomping into the bedding. Judging by the fact that he's not really losing weight, he is eating enough to sustain himself and there's plenty of droppings of various size. I know he's drinking plenty based on his urine output. His pre infection weight was closer to 3 lbs, so I kinda expected him to get back to that but he isn't getting over the 2 and a half pound mark. He's pretty energetic too. Maybe I'm worrying too much.

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Post   » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:49 am


It takes a LONG time for adult pigs to regain lost weight, if they ever do. As long as he's holding steady, I wouldn't worry about it.

Renonvsparky

Post   » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:36 am


I'm keeping my eye on it. It goes up and down by an ounce or two, but nothing drastic. The weather is starting to get a little better and the grass is starting to green up in spots. Soon I'll be able to put him outside to graze. I'm going to start him off slowly, but when he's able to graze daily like he usually does in the spring and summer, maybe he'll put a little more weight on. The vet says he should be around 3 lbs give or take a few ounces.

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sef1268
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Post   » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:18 am


I agree that, as long as he's maintaining his weight and not losing, I wouldn't get too hung up on trying to get him up to a specific weight. None of our guys weighs 3 lbs. (our heaviest is 2 lbs. 11 oz.), mainly because I don't feed unlimited pellets---they get roughly 1/8 cup of pellets a day, in addition to a cup or so of veggies and unlimited hay.

Again, slow steady progress is good. From the sound of it, you're doing everything right.

Renonvsparky

Post   » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:23 pm


Thank you. I think my hang up is that I'm still having to hand feed him critical care. It's actually become so much easier to do. He actually takes the syringe eagerly rather than me having to try and force him to. He even licks it off the edge of the cup. The amount of critical care I'm giving him is down to half a teaspoon twice a day in the morning and evening. He's eating enough on his own to make up for the reduced amount I'm hand feeding him. The critical care seems to stimulate his appetite because after I give it to him is when he eats the most.

I continue to be amazed at how resilient he is. Mr. Bubbles encourages him too because even though they are in separate enclosures, they always eat together, they touch noses and they squeak and purr to each other. Their cages are butted together so they can interact and they do that a lot. Such a sweet pair of little guys. I'm lucky to have them.

Renonvsparky

Post   » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:59 am



Got to take the piggies outside for a little bit for some fresh air, sunshine and their favorite treat. Fresh green grass. The first of spring.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:39 pm


They look like they are enjoying it!

A quick warning to you to be outside with them at all times. There is no shade they can move into if it gets hot (spring days can have searing heat and actually kill animals left in the sun) and no water. When you are out there with them, you can monitor them closely and act if there are any problems.

Renonvsparky

Post   » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:46 pm


They always love going out to eat grass. I never leave them even for a second mostly because of predators. And I don't take them out in the heat of the day or if the temperature drops under 50. I have a coveringuse to shade them in the summer. The temperature was about 53 degrees and scattered clouds and they were only out for about half an hour.

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Lynx
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Post   » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:09 pm


Sounds like you are on top of this! I bet they love their time outside. My guinea pigs would be very fearful of the big, open sky. More than one guinea pig (one of mine included) has escaped and hid under a bush!

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sef1268
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Post   » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:12 pm


I would be scared to death to have mine outside, but that's just me. I do love seeing other guinea pigs enjoying the outdoors, though!

Renonvsparky

Post   » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:07 am


I have to be extra carefu. Like I said, I don't take my eyes off of them even for a second and they don't spend a long time per visit outside (about 30 minutes at a time). They are also kept inside the portable play pen so they don't run around and get into trouble.

There are stray cats running around and the occasional dog that gets loose from the park across the street and runs over. If they come near, I chase them off or pick the little guys up. There's a pair of hawks in the desert about half a mile behind my house, but I don't sweat them too much because there's also a cow pasture there with plenty of golphers and other rodents over there to keep them well fed. They don't fly over the house very often.

Renonvsparky

Post   » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:21 am


Today was the first day of no critical care and Scruffy ate pretty good on his own. All total from this morning until bedtime, he ate 2 whole green lettuce leaves, a quarter of a green bell pepper, and small carrot stick about the size of a pinky finger, about 2 handfuls of hay and around a tablespoon of Oxbow pellets. I have to make an overnight trip to Las Vegas and my brother is going to feed the piggies for me. It will be a good test to see if Scruffy is back to normal eating habits. I'll be very worried, but I have to take care of some important family business. Wish us luck!

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sef1268
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Post   » Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:39 am


Good luck, and have a safe trip!

Renonvsparky

Post   » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:59 pm


We made it home and Scruffy did very well eating while I was away. I think he's going to be okay. I'll check his weight in the morning, but his appetite seems to be back. I'm happy to have him healthy again.

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sef1268
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Post   » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:49 am


Fantastic news! Glad you made it back safely.

Renonvsparky

Post   » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:19 pm


Scruffy's weight is 2 lbs 3 oz. That was before he ate anything today. I'm so excited for him! I'm going to do everything I can to prevent him from getting sick like that again. He's eating more hay and less veggies, but that should be good for him.

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