Sudden thirst increase, urine scald, high calcium, diet

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daj

Post   » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:06 am


OK. I will have to get them weighed, so I can calculate the dose for each of them.

Ugh! I just realized that if I give the first dose Wed., I will still be away the following Wed. I would hate to hold off until Friday, but I will be back the following Friday. I was thinking the doses were spaced 2 weeks apart. What might you do in this case? The med comes Wed., and I am away starting the following Mon., until Fri.

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Post   » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:58 am


You can hold off until Friday for the second dose. 9 days should be okay. Keep in mind, you can do four doses with the last three one week apart.

daj

Post   » Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:20 am


Oh, good... Thank you!

daj

Post   » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:43 pm


Is there any rule of thumb for when they might start to feel some relief? And, what about the coconut oil? Should I hold off on that during the ivermectin treatment, or can it be applied something like the following day?

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Sef
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Post   » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:55 am


Can take 3 or sometimes 4 treats, depending on how severe the mites are, but I've generally seen some improvement after the 2nd treatment.

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Post   » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:56 am


The coconut oil could interfere with the ivermectin by blocking its absorption into the skin.

daj

Post   » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:34 pm


That was my concern, but the day after the first application, I did put oil on them. They are still scratching a lot, and their skin is dandruffy, so I figured it might be good to do up until a couple days before the next treatment. One of them put a deep red scratch on his back. I put some Butt Paste on that spot. I was dreading having this problem still unresolved while I have to go away. Now I will worry about them night & day.

daj

Post   » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:39 pm


My pigs will be due for the third dose of ivermectin ri. night. So far there is no improvement. They're still scratching as much as ever. What do I do? I'm thinking I give a third dose, and if the itching doesn't seem to improve that following week, I should probably conclude it's not mites causing the itching... If this is the case, I don't know where I go from there. I don't believe it's simply dry skin. CP coconut oil once and twice a day for two weeks did not help. I suppose I take one of them back to the vet?

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Post   » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:59 am


Do you have any pictures of the skin?

I was looking at human causes of dry skin. Some of the metabolic ones (rare) are listed on this page:
https://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/guide/why-so-itchy#3
Unlikely, but Possible

Itchiness usually has a simple, common cause. But in some cases, if it doesn’t go away, could be a sign of a serious illness, such as:

Kidney disease
Liver disease
Thyroid problems
Certain cancers, particularly Hodgkin’s disease
Diabetes
Iron deficiency
HIV

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Sef
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Post   » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:56 am


I keep going back to the thought of something fungal that they're passing back and forth, since you mentioned ringworm awhile back. It doesn't make sense that you'd still see that level of itching after so many doses of an anti-parasitic if it were mites. On the other hand, it doesn't sound like you're seeing typical signs of a fungal infection, either.

I'm stumped.

daj

Post   » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:55 pm


I think I'm starting to see less scratching. WIth two of them I haven't seen much at all today. With Henry I still see it occasionally. Tonight is time for the third dose. I will do all three, but I am wondering about how one knows when to stop?

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Post   » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:22 pm


With as much itching as they've had for so long, I'd do four treatments.

daj

Post   » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:11 pm


OK, thanks. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

daj

Post   » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:45 am


Once again, false hope. It wasn't working, so no more of the med. I took Henry to a different vet. He listened to the history, and his thought turned the light bulb on in my head. He questioned the vitamin C level. I realized he hasn't been eating his fruit and vegetables like he used to. He hardly eats pepper anymore. He loves greens, but I limit them bcs they seem to give him skin issues when he gets too much. I started giving him a supplement with a syringe, and I'm trying to get him to eat more fruit. In the past he refused to eat the biscuit-type supplement. It will be a challenge to boost his intake. Is there any problem with using a human supplement, as long as the dosage is right? Also, might anyone know how long it might take to know whether lack of C was the issue? Are we talking days, weeks, a month?

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Post   » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:09 am


No, no problem using a human vitamin C only supplement. Look for the lowest dose you can find so you can cut it (if it's in pill form) into perhaps 25mg doses. You might start out giving him 50 mg/day for a few days.

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Post   » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:38 am


I have had newly adopted guinea pigs with significant scurvy turn around in less than a week on a daily dose of around 50 mg of vitamin C.

daj

Post   » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:55 pm


The new vet suggested doing culture from the skin. I felt it's worth a try, so I took one of my three in today. Although Henry's vitamin C level is probably low, this shouldn't be the case with the other two, since they eat all their fruit and vegetables, and they still itch. There most likely is something else going on. It will be up to ten days to get the results back. The vet is leaning toward Ivermectin injections, 3x, seven days apart. Does anyone have an opinion on this? They had two doses of Revolution, and more recently, three doses of topical Ivermectin. The vet is thinking there could be something parasitic going on that topical treatments are not getting at. They've all had ringworm twice. After the last time I changed out my entire set up, got rid of all wood and paper bedding in favor of C&C and fleece.

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Post   » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:05 pm


It would be a continued effort to assume it is parasitic. By injection does treat slightly different parasites though the topical method should have worked.

I hope you start seeing some results. Demodetic mites are particularly hard to get rid of (another type of mite). Keep in mind that if he has them and the other two guinea pigs are not concurrently treated, you might see slight improvement but not permanent improvement if not all carriers or potential carriers are treated.

daj

Post   » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:44 pm


Do you know how common it is to treat by injection? Are there side effects I need to watch for? Already, his appetite is not what it used to be. Also, I asked about giving the injections myself. It would be difficult to take three at once, given they need to be kept separate, and the alternative of making three separate trips is tough too. He was open to me doing the second and third treatment after I watch him the first time. I've done injections of insulin to a cat before.

daj

Post   » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:11 pm


Also, a puzzling thing is that they don't have any lesions, just flaky skin. I suppose this could be due to mites, though, is this correct?

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