Jan's Toothy Smile medical thread

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daisymay
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Post   » Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:36 am


Ditto. Supplementing with Critical Care and/or pellet stew is the only reliable way I've found to help increase weight, or maintain it in an older piggie.
I didn't think 3 was old? Have been hand feeding for last week and Jan hates it. Can't wait for Winter and loads of grass again.

Talishan
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Post   » Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:47 am


No, 3 isn't old. I phrased that poorly -- would have been better to have said that CC and pellet stew are the only ways I've found to help any pig gain or maintain weight consistently or reliably (and even then it's a struggle).

Once in a great while (like every few years :/), I'll get a batch of really, really, REALLY great hay that they love and devour in mass quantities. That works better than anything. Unfortunately that's something that you can't get on demand when you really need it.

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Post   » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:04 am


Anne too was concerned that Jan dribbled when eating so Jan will be seeing Carol May 16th to be gas sedated and back teeth looked at for spurs.

Will NEVER take anymore pigs to see Anne. Carol and Kirsty may not know much about pigs but thet're honest about it and are willing to learn. Better the devil you know. The most dangerous vet is the one who claims to have knowledge.

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daisymay
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Post   » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:02 am


I forgot to mention Anne gave me some Clover pellets. She said they're very good for piggies and high in vitamin C. Has anyone tried Clover pellets? I do not know the maker.

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Post   » Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:43 pm


Clover would be high in calcium. See if there is a nutritional breakdown for them.

Talishan
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Post   » Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:34 am


Ditto Lynx. The pigs would likely enjoy them, but clover hays are very high in calcium.

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daisymay
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Post   » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:07 pm


The pellets are made by Passwell and thankfully the free sample was only 50grams. And 4 of the piggies didn't like them anyways.

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daisymay
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Post   » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:23 am


Our Jan will be 4 in December and she is eating, being hand fed, doing all things normal but is losing weight. She has always been on the small size think she was the runt of the litter. 2 weeks ago she was 840grams and this week 800grams.

She has been to the vet and been checked out by Carol who found nothing. She did say Jan had a lot of cheek/skin in her mouth. No X-rays were took even though I pleaded for Carol to take some. If she continues to lose weight I will insist on dental X-rays or take her else where. I am at a lost as to why Jan and Jasmine lose weight around this time of year. Jemma Jasmine's sister would also lose weight this time of year.

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Post   » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:46 pm


"2 weeks ago she was 840grams and this week 800grams."

When should we start worrying? For my pig, 20-30 gram can be a difference between morning and afternoon. :-)

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Post   » Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:01 pm


Ditto szose. If you're not weighing at the same time every day, preferably before breakfast, you have no idea how much is pig and how much is food.

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daisymay
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Post   » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:39 am


If you're not weighing at the same time every day,
For the last 4 years Jasmine, Jemma and Jan have all lost weight from Spring to Autumn. Ranging from 60grams or more. I always weigh my girls at the same time not always the same day but at the same time. Last year Jasmine was 1184grams in November and in June she was 680grams and now she is 900grams.

Jan was 940grams in November and is now 800grams. This is not a food versus piggy thing. Something is causing these girls to lose weight. Whether it be stress, heat, or diet(hard to find grass) but something is at the bottom of it.

It is too late for Jemma but not for her sister Jasmine and Jan. If it's not medical what is it?

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Post   » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:43 am


I wish I had answers for you, daisymay. I know you take great care of your guinea pigs.

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daisymay
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Post   » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:25 am


Can one feed their guinea pigs oaten and Triticale hay? It is as follows

Triticale is a highly versatile forage for grazing, silage, balage, and boot-stage hay. Triticale is a cross between wheat and rye.

It is getting hard at present to get Oaten hay apart from meadow what other hays are safe for guinea pigs?

Took Jan to the vet Monday. She had lost another 20grams and is now below 800grams. Teeth were fine, heart and breathing also fine. No lumps or bumps found. So both vet and us puzzled, will give the corn a try. We are adding grinded oats to the Critical Care mixture which hasn't made much of a difference.

Jasmine has lost 15grams in a week so am keeping close eye on her too.

bpatters
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Post   » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:49 am


It's not a grass hay, which is what is recommended for guinea pigs. Can you get meadow grass?

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Post   » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:06 am


All I can find about Triticale hay for you is here:

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/fcd10574

If you compare the calcium in tritical to my hay chart, it looks like the calcium falls in the grass hay area vs. alfalfa/clover higher calcium area:

http://www.guinealynx.info/hay_chart.html

Talishan
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Post   » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:58 pm


Triticale is a wheat (according to the original Star Trek, anyway. :-)

If it's a grass hay made from a wheat plant, it should be fine if the pigs will eat it. The tribbles liked it. ;-) Rye blends are fed, at least in the UK iirc, with no problem (and they smell wonderful).

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daisymay
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Post   » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:29 am


Thanks for the replies bpatters, Lynx and Talishan. Jan went to the vet today just to be weighed. She has lost 15grams in a month even though she eats most of her food and she gets syringe fed every 4 hours. She is a tiny pig in size. Will keep you posted.

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Post   » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:31 am


15 grams is nothing -- one good pee, or a few bites of food. It could totally be due to what she had eatent/not eaten at the time she was weighed.

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daisymay
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Post   » Thu May 25, 2017 11:45 am


Thanks for the reply bpatters. At the start of the year Jan was 820grams and was hovering around 820-780grams. Now she is she is behaving like Jemma and Jasmine where in the cooler months they would lose weight for no apparent reason.

Jan is eating, pooping, peeing and is bright and alert and doesn't look like she is in pain. She will be 5 in December of this year. Is this just due to aging or something else? Her sister Joy isn't doing it and our late Jessie never did it nor past piggies that reached 5.

Not going to waste money taking her to the vet as they had NO idea with Jemma and Jasmine and I doubt they would have any idea now. Any advice much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Teeth have been looked at and were normal.

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Post   » Thu May 25, 2017 8:31 pm


I know you will keep a close eye on her. I kind of think that is the best you can do right now. You are a good guinea pig caretaker.

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