Jill, Jaffa and Jupiter

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:29 pm


Perhaps you can get some ideas from the heart page (it contains all the info I found).
www.guinealynx.info/heart.html

A nebulizer might help if there is chest congestion.

Unfortunately, I am just throwing things out there. I do not have a medical background and this is not an area I have experience with.

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daisymay
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Post   » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:57 am


Saw Danielle today with Jaffa, she said it is a upper infection ie: Throat, nose, mouth. I refused Baytril and she is on excuse spelling Trisbrisian (Bactrim) tablets 1.5 tablets twice a day, Protextin, fed Critical Care. She is to go back Wednesday this time to see Carol and may require chest X-ray. Thanks for the reply Lynx and GrannyJul, will keep you posted will look into a nebuliser. She refused point blank on the heart meds saying heart was clear no fluids could be heard, beat was strong and no mur murs. I HATE our vets! All vets here are the say. We're so in the dark ages!

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:39 am


Gentomycin is a drug that can safely be used in a nebulizer for URIs that are hard to treat.

An xray would help to show if her analysis is correct regarding her heart.

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daisymay
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Post   » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:17 am


I know this is a damn silly question but can someone please tell me what 1 point 5 tablets twice a day means? Is it one and a half or 1 tablet and a fifth? Totally confused. There has been no change in Jaffa's condition after there dosages of the AB. One thing we have done is stop the handfeeding. It was stressing her out, she was breathing worse, she didn't like it and when I felt her she was shaking. Why hand-feed her if she is eating 95% of her food and some of Jill's and maintaining weight? If someone can let me know what one point 5 tablets a day means it would be a great relief for us and then we would know she is getting the proper dose. Can't ask the vet as tomorrow is Monday but a public holiday. Thanks in advance and thanks Lynx.

Would this one be any good or would the vet have one I could borrow? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-Ultrasonic-Nebulizer-Ne ... lWkQCrq80crg Or would breathing the steam from a boiling saucepan do the same thing?

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PooksiedAnimals
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Post   » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:06 am


1.5 tablets would be one and a half tablets.

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Post   » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:05 am


Don't use steam from a saucepan. It's very hot, and can hurt your pig. Nebulizers produce a cool mist, so there's no danger from the heat.

My vet has nebulizers that he lends out, but you'd have to ask your vet. We have no way of knowing whether your vet does the same.

And yes, that nebulizer will work. You'll probably have to fasten it to the side of the box so the pig can't knock it over.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:51 pm


Ditto everyone. Nebulizers would be safer. For some reason I was drawing a blank when she said "one point five" pills. But 1.5 being 1 pill and a half of a pill makes perfect sense.

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daisymay
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Post   » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:13 pm


If Jaffa has a URI I am at a lost! She only makes the bubbly/crackling noise when being handled or eating. Other times she's perfectly normal. We are trying hard not to stress her out by handling as this is how Jemma, Jupiter and Jasmine passed. They started gasping for air, went limp and were gone, making the fish like movement with their mouths. Jaffa has same symptoms as the other 3 and it really scares us! Jemma lasted 2 months and vets had no idea, Jupiter was gone in 2 weeks(Jaffa's biological sister, she was only two) and Jasmine lasted 4 weeks and still vets had no idea. I wanted autopsy and the reply I got why waste money when an autopsy would only show what they died off. Then I get if autopsy done the pathologist would NOT return the body. Why are we in the dark ages? Why must piggies suffer under the hands of vets who should be helping them?
I will ask Carol Wednesday about Nebuliser and the drug Lynx mentioned. I did start giving Jaffa one and a half tablets but it seemed so much I went back to one twice a day. Maybe I should go back to one and a half? 3 days on AB's no improvement so far. Still eating 95% of food and some of Jill's bowl too.
Would her condition have to do with stress? Which we believe killed the other three. We believe they hyperventilated and suffered panic attack and they stopped breathing. Why do you all think?
Thanks for the replies Lynx, PooksiedAnimals and bpatters. Much appreciative of the advise given. Wish our vet was as helpful! Many thanks to you all!
If vet gives me Gentomycin how much and how often. Can't expect vet to know. Jaffa is 1272grams and maintaining weight so far. The only symptoms she has is bubbly/cracking breathing other wise she is fit as a fiddle.

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Lynx
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Post   » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:32 pm


I believe pbatters has used a nebulizer. Hopefully she can suggest a dose.

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daisymay
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Post   » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:00 am


Jaffa has been on AB now for 4.5 days, took her to the vet and she had mucus running poops(more mucus than poops). The bubbly/crackly breathing has stopped. So for now she is off the AB's(Bactrim) and on Protexin twice daily till it clears. Poor Ian(I have bung knees) had to climb play pen again and throw out the fresh hay and put white towels on top of the vetbed then put fresh hay down to see if she still has the mucus poops. She has been on Protexin once a day since she's been on AB's. She is bright, eating, peeing it is now just her poops. Carol is confused as Bactrim is suppose to be gentler on a piggy's tummy, so looks like Jaffa has a more sensitive tummy.
So for now watching the poops and if bubbly/crackly breathing comes back. I am confused as to why there is say 85% mucus and 15% poop? Will keep you posted .

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daisymay
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Post   » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:45 am


Okay, vet thinks Jaffa has a URI so she prescribed antibiotics. But she said something strange to me that after years of having guinea pigs made me wonder.

I asked her with the antibiotics do I keep up the Protexin-a Probiotic. She said NO! she said an antibiotic kills good and bad bugs(I knew that) so she said give antibiotics 5 days then 5 days of Probiotics. To do this before(Protexin) is just a waste of time.

I am curious have I after all these years been doing it wrong? I have been giving Antibiotics and Probiotics together just hours apart. What do you do?

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Sef
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Post   » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:49 am


All sources that I've ever seen over the years suggest giving probiotics roughly 60-90 after antibiotics, and this is always what I have done as well.

bpatters
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Post   » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:57 am


I always, always, always give probiotics after every dose of antibiotics.

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daisymay
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Post   » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:51 pm


Around 7 weeks ago maybe more, Jaffa was put onto Doxy. No problems. Then around 10 days after her poops become mushy. Nothing I do seemed to help. Doxy did clear infection!

I have tried medication like Flagyl, and this seemed to work but after 10-20 days later soft poops return. She is on Protexin once a day as she loves it, and was on poop soup also twice a day.

I have cut out rockmelon(her favourite), cucumber, cos lettuce and tomatoes. I am in process of growing some cat grass.
Have not seen her eat hay or her poops. Now as to her diet she is getting carrot, spinach, baby spinach, silverbeet, oak lettuce, Oxbow pellets which she occasionally eats, Timothy hay, and Meadow or Oaten hay depending on what we can get due to the drought.

Now some suggested Vitamin C supplement but when I give her some she stops eating-Vitamin C I got from health food shop. Jessie was on it for last 2 years of her life and she loved it. I would add a pinch once a day.

I don't really want to take her to the vet again as I am scared as to what else they are going to inject her with. And last time I took Joy to the vet they were talking about taking blood whilst she was awake. NONE will listen when I tell them you don't need 2 vials to have blood tested as that is almost half a guinea pigs blood supply. I have suggested many times to cut the quick in a claw or two but they insist this is not enough. To make it worse pathologist when testing a guinea pig's blood have no idea what they are looking for!

Now don't say go to exotic vets or piggy savvy vet as (a) there are none and (b) they too if you can find one want to take blood too. There is a Dr Vella listed on GL's recommend vets here in Australia and he too takes blood from guinea pigs.

We have tried removing lettuce or spinach and silverbeet from diet but what ever we remove she stops eating.
It is alright if you have no suggestions as I am fresh out of ideas as well! With the Doxy vet said point 0.5mls twice a day for both Jaffa and Joy(both had lung infections) BUT with Jaffa I gave her point 0.4mls twice a day and Joy point 0.3mls twice a day as in both cases point 0.5mls twice a day seemed a lot to me!

Any suggestions much appreciated! I have also sent links and printed up the pages from GL concerning mushy poops and drugs that can help firm them up, taken them with me but as usual they just ignore me. Thanking any replies in advance.

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daisymay
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Post   » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:22 pm


I forgot to mention in way of diet have tried capsicum-red, green and yellow, swede, parsnip, turnip, parsley, coriander, watercress, broccoli(not too much), rocket to name some and the little minxes won't eat any of it!

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daisymay
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Post   » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:26 pm


I am extremely worried about Jaffa!!!!! Had her booked in for Monday but have now booked her in for tomorrow at 11.15am.
Here is a guideline for you, will bring this in with me tomorrow as well:
6th July 1240grams.
30th July 1118grams.-treated for infection and mushy poops.
19th August 1129grams.
6th September 1097grams.
27th October 1007grams.
1st November 988grams.
7th November 871grams.
Weight lost of 369grams in 4 months or 117grams in 6 days.

She is eating, drinking, peeing, pooping, no dribbling or food falling out of her mouth. No noisy or rapid breathing. No squeaking when peeing or pooping. No blood in private area.
Until tomorrow will put her on 2 drops of Tramal twice a day, though not hunched up or coarse coat.

They say things happen in three's, I will scream if it does!!!!!

bpatters
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Post   » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:51 pm


How old is she?

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:20 pm


Are you doing supplemental feeding? I am sorry she has lost so much weight.

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daisymay
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Post   » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:59 pm


Yes to handfeeding. She will be 5 on December 15th 2019.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:47 am


Good luck with the appointment tomorrow! I hope they have some answers.

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