Does Hay Quality Vary With Quantity?

bpatters
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Post   » Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:39 pm


Just found out today that all of KMS' products are available from Amazon with free shipping.

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Lynx
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Post   » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:32 pm


Wow, that is a good deal! I hope it works out for them! (shipping is really expensive)

Bookfan
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Post   » Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:44 pm


Whoa. I'm going to have to look in to that.

Do you guys think the leaves would be a problem, especially since there are so many more this time & you can't pick out all the tiny broken pieces? We've had so much trouble with stones & bloat over the last few years, spent lots of money & I don't want to cause more problems. I can't seem to find much info & the vet said she didn't know. There are brown aspen, maple & oak leaves & maybe other kinds.

Bookfan
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Post   » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:03 pm


I just checked Amazon. For 25lb same price including shipping.

bpatters
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Post   » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:13 pm


I doubt seriously they'd eat the leaves. Maybe pick out a few leaf pieces and put in the cage and see if they pay any attention to them?

Gessika

Post   » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:50 pm


Yikes! I looks like KMS's prices have gone WAY up. My last order for 25# of hay in December of last year was $48 total, and now it's $60. "Free" shipping on both their website and Amazon, but I used to pay $60 shipping included for 45#.

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mmeadow
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Post   » Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:25 pm


I don't think the prices have gone up much. I just paid $76.95 for 45 pounds of hay plus shipping. In Feb 2018 it was $74.58. Unless I was getting the customer discount that Kleenmama used to offer? I do remember her apologizing for the increasing price of shipping, which she had no control over.

Gessika

Post   » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:29 am


The last time I bought 45lb was September of 2017 and my total was just over $58, $30 for the hay and $28+ for shipping. I know that was awhile ago but my most recent order was in December for 25lb and those prices have gone up as well. The KM site isn't breaking down shipping costs anymore, just saying "X lbs is X price, which is considerably more than I used to pay. I suppose this new "free shipping" model is higher to cover the costs of shipping to places where the shipping would be higher due to distance. Kleenmama herself sold the company to someone a few years ago and I don't think she's involved now.

rjespicer

Post   » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:23 pm


We get 10lb boxes of JoJos Best/Standlee Timothy Forage Hay ($24 on Amazon plus "Free" Shipping) and the quality seems to vary throughout the year. I guess that is to be expected though. It is lovely and green at the moment but we had a few boxes towards the end of last year that were grayish and even brown with roots and stuff in with it that wasn't hay.
We have tried them on Oxbow but they dont like it much.

MorganM

Post   » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:04 am


We've bought the typical stuff you get in the smaller bags at big box stores. Quality seemed fine and price was meh.

Lately we've been buying 50 pound compressed bales of timothy hay. It's pretty good quality and the price is amazing. I can get 50 lbs for $20. They are pretty spoiled with it. We fill up a big basket every day for them to play in and eat from; they love sitting in it and sometimes burrow in it. Then there's a bin up in the loft which we stuff full daily. There's just so much of it that it's fun to spoil them with it.

It can get a little dusty but not bad. I keep the bail out in the garage in a big plastic bin. I have a big bag I fill from the bail and keep in the house by their cage. I'm sure to shake out the dust as I'm pulling apart the bail and refilling the bag. Then I give it another little shake in the bag as I'm filling the bins.

My wife bought this box of 'first cut' timothy hay... it was amazing stuff. There were flowers in there six inches long and most of them were three or four inches. It was much more soft than the compressed bail or the stuff we've gotten from big box stores. However this small box was $30. It was fun to treat them with it but too expensive to keep buying... at least with how we go through it.

Sef1268 I know what you mean... Sometimes I'm at the check out and they are like "Oh is this for a horse? Sheep?" and I smile and say "Naw, it's for the guinea pigs!" Most look at you like O_o

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M1dn1ght

Post   » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:48 am


I get 9 lb bags of Oxbow orchard grass hay from Chewie.com and have never had even the slightest of issues. The only problem with it is that it's packed so tightly that I have to wrestle it out of the bag.

SSLee

Post   » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:00 pm


My first hay purchase before the piggies' arrival was a 90 ounces bag of Oxbow orchard grass hay from the local Petco, due to my online order being delayed. I was amazed at the quality as it was green and had very few brown pieces. Since then, my purchases have all been online for 10 or 20 lbs but much more brown pieces and it didn't matter where I bought it from. I'm still using the 90 ounces Oxbow bag to transport the hay home as the 10 or 20 lb boxes are delivered to the office. I wonder what the janitor thinks of all the little pieces of hay scattered in our office suite, although I do try to sweep up as much as possible.

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Post   » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:38 pm


MorganM, watch out for the dust. Some hay that seems dusty is actually moldy and what you see is the mold spores floating around.

Though guinea pigs may like the seed heads, first cut hay can have very stiff stems and less nutritious leafy parts.
www.guinealynx.info/hay.html

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:02 am


The 9 lb bag of Oxbow is what I last ordered and some of it looked more like straw with the long, thick stems. I was going to set up auto ship but I don’t want that size again. I read some of the reviews and a number of people made the same observation that the larger bag had much longer, courser hay. Since my GP is only eating half of it, I am accumulating plenty of mulch for my flower beds!

Psychobabbler

Post   » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:47 am


This may seem like a strange request, but can anyone who uses it post a picture of what second cut hay looks like? I've always given my piggies Oxbow Timothy that comes in the plastic bags. It's always been nice and green and they LOVE the seed heads - but this thread has me rethinking that...Thanks!

bpatters
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Psychobabbler

Post   » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:44 pm


Thank you! So it looks pretty much the same as what I have...is it possible that what I'm getting is 2nd cut? The quality seems good compared to the Kaytee stuff I've bought in a pinch (lots of dust at the bottom of the bag, many tough stems, lots of brown strands mixed in).

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Post   » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:17 pm


You will notice from the link bpatters posted that the third cut can have some brown/tan leaf in it. Third cut is still considered the softest, most nutritious, and most desirable hay by many people.

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ItsaZoo
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Post   » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:59 pm


A liquidation store in town just got a big shipment of pet products. High quality food and accessories for dogs, cats, reptiles, birds, and critters. Oxbow 40 oz Timothy and meadow hay blend $4.95. The small 15 oz bags of hay were $2.95. Everything was one third to one-half the retail price. They even had aquariums and reptile habitats. This had to be several truckloads so now I’m wondering who went out of business.

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Lynx
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Post   » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:14 pm


This had to be several truckloads so now I’m wondering who went out of business.

Must have been Amazon :-)

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