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RomeAndSmores1

Post   » Fri May 10, 2019 12:15 pm


Okay so y’all probably know about my setup. I have two girls and a male but their cages are separated by wire. I noticed that my male gets really lonely sometimes so I considered adopting a second male to keep him company but then I thought- wouldn’t they fight over the girls? Targarian already marks “his” territory by pissing all over the place. If I can’t get a second piggo, (a second male, it would make four pigs if I got another), what can I do to help alleviate his loneliness?

bpatters
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Post   » Fri May 10, 2019 1:57 pm


Guinea pigs don't mark their territories by peeing on things, the way dogs do. Their territory marking is to open their anal sacs and drag them on the ground.

Two males might or might not fight over the females -- they're more likely just to squabble over who's going to be top pig. Could you move the males' cage so that it's not so close to the girls?

RomeAndSmores1

Post   » Fri May 10, 2019 5:38 pm


I don’t have any other space for his cage. Why should I move it?

bpatters
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Post   » Fri May 10, 2019 6:05 pm


Because they'd be right next to the girls, and possibly more apt to fight.

WICharlie

Post   » Sat May 11, 2019 10:02 am


How do you know your male is lonely? If he is right next to the girls and can see them and talk to them, he probably benefits from their company even though he's not in the same cage. If you think he's lonely because he shows a lack of energy, movement, ect., there may be something else going on. Is his cage big enough for him to run "zoomies" around the cage? If not, he may need a bigger cage, not a companion. If he sits hunched up he may be sick. Are you weighing him regularly to monitor his health?

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sef1268
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Post   » Sat May 11, 2019 10:21 am


I also wonder what is meant by "he pisses all over the place." Is this a small cage? What is the bedding? You had a rat issue in another thread, which makes me wonder how and where your guinea pigs are being housed.

JX4

Post   » Sat May 11, 2019 2:29 pm


If you really want to give him companionship without getting a buddy, you could have him neutered. Then he could live with the females. However, you would need to wait about a month after the procedure before introducing them together since guinea pig sperm can live in the ductwork for at least 3 weeks or so, so that a freshly neutered male can still impregnate a female (or two) within a month of the procedure.

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RavenShade
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Post   » Sat May 11, 2019 9:34 pm


Can you double decker the cages?

Though, actually neutering may be the better idea.

RomeAndSmores1

Post   » Wed May 15, 2019 5:14 pm


Alright to answer ya’ll’s questions, his cage is big enough to do zoomies, and by pissing all over the place I meant that he just pees a lot in general. The cages they’ve are in are the same size as each other (very big) and the girls both share one while the male has the other to himself.

I’m saying he’s lonely because he (while he is very healthy, I do weigh the little bugger) spends a lot of time In his hides. I think this is lonely behavior, because when I lost little man a while ago, Rome, my remaining pig showed the same behavior, until I got s’mores. Targarian isn’t showing it that bad, but it’s still similar.

Hope this clears things up.

bpatters
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Post   » Wed May 15, 2019 6:06 pm


The question is, how large is his cage? Not in zoomies, but in feet and inches.

DonkeyBrainz

Post   » Wed May 15, 2019 6:55 pm


Is he drinking excessively? If he's peeing a lot and drinking a lot he need to see a vet to check for diabetes or kidney problems. But if he just pees wherever it's probably just the way he is. Some will pick a corner or always go in their "kitchen" but some don't care. Poppins likes to use his kitchen, but Buster will pee almost wherever he lays in his cage.

I have 2 boars who are separated but they enjoy talking to each other. I used to worry about them being lonely but I think they are happy to have each other's company, even if they can't live together. If you think he wants someone to cuddle with you could try giving him a small stuffed animal. Poppins loves his hedgehog! (He mostly humps it but once in a while he lays with it)

Could it be that your piggy is just bored? Switching things around in the cages always gets my piggies to be more active. I'll switch out a tunnel for a hidey or just put fleece forests in a new location. Or put down new toys for floortime. Hide veggies around his cage for him to find. You can even get puzzle toys to keep him occupied. (there is one on chewy.com specifically geared towards rabbits & guinea pigs, but my piggies enjoy the dog and cat versions as well) Not sure how anyone else feels, but I think TV can be entertaining to certain guinea pigs. Maybe it's worth a shot?

Buster is a HUGE fan of TV. Poppins could care less, but Buster gets very pouty and will stay in his hidey most of the day if he doesn't have his TV. A few weeks ago "his" TV went out and I didn't replace it right away. He started spending all day sleeping in his pigloo. I honestly thought he was sick because he didn't want to come out very often even when I spent the whole day in "the guinea pig room" talking to him. I didn't' even think it could be due to him missing his shows but sure enough=once his new TV was hooked up he returned to normal. He did a lap around his cage, gave me wheek, and looked at me like "FINALLY! Took you long enough!"

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Lynx
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Post   » Wed May 15, 2019 10:58 pm


That is so funny!

What were his favorite shows?

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sef1268
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Post   » Wed May 15, 2019 11:27 pm


Staying in a hidey can be loneliness or boredom, but it could also be a sign of illness. Is he eating, drinking and pooping normally? Otherwise bright and alert? If he is separated by a divider and can see/hear/smell the females, I'd expect more interest and interaction.

DonkeyBrainz

Post   » Sat May 18, 2019 4:19 am


It's really weird but Buster LOVES Kitchen Nightmares! Whenever Gordon Ramsay starts yelling Buster starts popcorning! It's one of the cutest things I've ever seen! He also loves Trailer Park Boys (which includes lots of yelling as well) I think he enjoys people sounding "excited" and then he gets excited and yells too :) But he'll watch anything. If I have my tablet out during floortime he will run right over and curl up in my lap to watch a show or movie.

Poppins is pickier. He likes to hear people whistle and then he whistles back. I'm a huge Walking Dead fan so obviously I was excited when I realized he'd love any episode where Negan & the Saviors do their whistle. He also watches Fixer Upper, I guess it's a house flipping show my mom watches and the husband whistles a lot and Pop does it back.

I'm not SUPER strict about what they watch, but they are absolutely forbidden to watch Bizarre Foods! Or any other shows that depict humans consuming guinea pigs. They're far too innocent for those shows :P

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Lynx
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Post   » Sat May 18, 2019 7:07 am


That is cool! You have some unique guinea pigs!

RomeAndSmores1

Post   » Mon May 20, 2019 8:33 am


The cages are each five feet long by two and a half feet wide. I’m american so I don’t know how that translates, but my male doesn’t show any health concerns, poops are normal, water consumption and pee is normal (even though he pees literally anywhere he is), i think he might just be bored.

Follow up question, Targarians cage is right next to a window and at noon the sun shines down on some parts of the cage. He likes to lay there and bask in the sun and purr even though the rest of the room is always 70 degrees and cool. Is this normal? Man, I have some weird pigs.

RomeAndSmores1

Post   » Mon May 20, 2019 8:35 am


They each have the same size cage although the girls share one. Once I get targarian neutered, I’m going to link the cages together so they can have physical contact and more room to zoom, but I still haven’t decided whether or not I want to go through with it.

RomeAndSmores1

Post   » Mon May 20, 2019 8:42 am


My guinea pigs are similar with the TV thing but my girls (Rome and S’mores) like to listen to the radio, specifically NPR, so I usually leave it on for them when I leave the room. Targarian couldn’t care less though.

DonkeyBrainz

Post   » Mon May 20, 2019 6:22 pm


5 ft x 2.5 ft would be equivalent to a Large (2 x 4 grid) C&C cage, which is awesome for 1 pig! Obviously bigger is better, but the minimum is 2 x 3 (grids). I think neutering him and trying to have them all be friends sounds like the best option, as long as you wait to put them together until about a month after surgery. I know personally it would be hard to make the decision about the surgery but neutering is pretty quick and easy. If he's young and in good health he should be fine. I'd make sure to bring him to an experienced exotics vet who works with guinea pigs frequently. Ask how many neuters they have done on guinea pigs, how many guinea pigs they treat each year, and also ask about the vet tech(s) who will be assisting in surgery and their guinea pig experience-they are the ones usually doing the anesthesia.

My guinea pigs love to lay in the sun, it isn't weird at all :) You just have to be careful with the plastic hideys, like Pigloos. They can get really hot when the sun shines on them and piggies laying inside can accidently overheat. I would stay away from plastic houses just to be safe!

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