Thank you very much all three for oppinions.
I agree with you sef. This is used a lot for humans. Idid my research, too. Its a lot videos of it on YouTube-l. But I wont go into discussion if its as clear as normal x-ray..(same s..different crowd or how they say-probably, okay..)
I ll explain-
I can see details clearly how can you not, this video calmed me down, thats why i post it here:). If you watched the whole video you can see howhe lights up a little part of mouse.. Beside that Iries vets have very professional x-ray machine they checked that on.
They dont perform anasthesia on pig but they put him in the box so he cant move and they see easily all sides than-or something like that.
The aint just normal vets for exotic animals and one of them its professor at vets collegue. Its veterinary collegue s clinic. They all have very much of post-collegue education-i think (i am serious) they are the most educated vets for exotic animals of all vets from people on the forum.
But than they are not as worried or alerted as i am. and i am thinking like you, ifully agree with all three. BEtter safe than sorry. So thats where we disagree, but they aint privat clinic. Ringo s vet its from privat clinic and they re very very how can you say, they always listen.
Results are so far: problems started after AB 2018, november, urinogram(normal), x-ray(normal)-without anything wrong), three urinograms(july, august)(normal), flouroscopy(normal)… if we add normal x-ray and its normal i wont bother him anymore.
I dont want crash into the problem, thats why i ask you and i dont want to bring him on some other clinic cause he already got on going baccterial infection and i dont want to add something just because i am worried, i want to be reasonable. So thank you.
Just to be clear if something goes worse(blood in urine) or little urinating or anything i ll bring him straight away to his vets and i think they Will be willing to help. They do -even if i sometimes doesnt agree)-fairly outstanding job taking care for pig infected with bordetella bronhiseptica(we all know how many pigs with it are dead:()
So thank you very much. I try to be objective, even tough of course we all have our own oppinions and i am glad i can share it with someone who knows pigs well.
Unsure of what happened to my pig
Just to add(and than that s really all i have to say on this subject and all i am gonna say without additional x-ray results):
i am reading what you re writting to me and of course i llask (cause his vets didnt want to do it straight away, which is a shame) if its possible else where just to do this x-ray without anasthesia so i can write to you if its okay and we get it over with. But I ll see if we can get some luck..all other clinic share x-rays with cats and dogs and others and i dont like that. So you risk it and check..or wait a little and do whatever. I dont know what your views are and if your vets for exotics havejust exotic animals or they have same x-ray as for cats and dogs vets...
As far as i know this is the only vet clinic that does not share x-rays with other animals. Other clinic have exotic vet but they have other vets, too. We dont have other clinics just for exotic animals if you know what i mean.
i am reading what you re writting to me and of course i llask (cause his vets didnt want to do it straight away, which is a shame) if its possible else where just to do this x-ray without anasthesia so i can write to you if its okay and we get it over with. But I ll see if we can get some luck..all other clinic share x-rays with cats and dogs and others and i dont like that. So you risk it and check..or wait a little and do whatever. I dont know what your views are and if your vets for exotics havejust exotic animals or they have same x-ray as for cats and dogs vets...
As far as i know this is the only vet clinic that does not share x-rays with other animals. Other clinic have exotic vet but they have other vets, too. We dont have other clinics just for exotic animals if you know what i mean.
I am concerned because of baccterias.. i am a little crazy i know, but its true:)
Yeah, i know, its the same. But on this clinic where Irie went they do not use it on cats and dogs, cause they dont have it there at least i think. If you know what i mean. On private clinics where they have one vet for exotics they re all on the same equipments. Sorry my english is not half as good as yours.
I can always go there again and very politely ask for x-ray cause pig is still making sound when defecating mainly.and we all know this is not normal. MY sister said but its their job..well,yeah.. they re paid for that from national how do you say.. whatever. I ll insist but we ll se where we get. But Will all respect for knowledge and experience they have. thats why i wont have pigs anymore. Cause I cant function like that. Alternatives are other exotic vets who i am not sure they can x-ray the pig without anasthesia or hurting him(they should, but..)
Yeah, i know, its the same. But on this clinic where Irie went they do not use it on cats and dogs, cause they dont have it there at least i think. If you know what i mean. On private clinics where they have one vet for exotics they re all on the same equipments. Sorry my english is not half as good as yours.
I can always go there again and very politely ask for x-ray cause pig is still making sound when defecating mainly.and we all know this is not normal. MY sister said but its their job..well,yeah.. they re paid for that from national how do you say.. whatever. I ll insist but we ll se where we get. But Will all respect for knowledge and experience they have. thats why i wont have pigs anymore. Cause I cant function like that. Alternatives are other exotic vets who i am not sure they can x-ray the pig without anasthesia or hurting him(they should, but..)
Thanks, Lynx:)!
I am calling some other exotic vet tomorrow morning if he is willing to do it without anasthesia or something else - in normal state. I ll ask for two views. I dont even care how much is the price...like really. Just please do it. Thoose vets IRie went to have really low prices, but i dont care much about it, if we cant solve the problems(they have 20EUR for another photo, but you can hardly get it). If we got results this week i ll happily update finally.
Other option i ask for x-rays on Ringos clinic. They dont have exotic vet, but maybe theywould let me hold him.. or if not i can show them how. Theyre very kind and always willing to help. I dont wanna bring him there cause of infections, but they re really close by(15min away) and they would do it anytime even at night in emergency. Once they gave me Reglan when Irie couldnt poop..they didnt charge me nothing and didnt even see the pig..just good luck -in the middle of the night:)and vet just waited on me..:) So we have some other options after all.
I noticed purple spot (fairly small) again in cage at morning. When he urinated on the floor nothing wrong was seen .. he drunk little water so he urinated little.I always check how much he drunk. So I just say-I ll call ..its pointless waiting. Even if the results Will be clear, maybe it wont be.
I am calling some other exotic vet tomorrow morning if he is willing to do it without anasthesia or something else - in normal state. I ll ask for two views. I dont even care how much is the price...like really. Just please do it. Thoose vets IRie went to have really low prices, but i dont care much about it, if we cant solve the problems(they have 20EUR for another photo, but you can hardly get it). If we got results this week i ll happily update finally.
Other option i ask for x-rays on Ringos clinic. They dont have exotic vet, but maybe theywould let me hold him.. or if not i can show them how. Theyre very kind and always willing to help. I dont wanna bring him there cause of infections, but they re really close by(15min away) and they would do it anytime even at night in emergency. Once they gave me Reglan when Irie couldnt poop..they didnt charge me nothing and didnt even see the pig..just good luck -in the middle of the night:)and vet just waited on me..:) So we have some other options after all.
I noticed purple spot (fairly small) again in cage at morning. When he urinated on the floor nothing wrong was seen .. he drunk little water so he urinated little.I always check how much he drunk. So I just say-I ll call ..its pointless waiting. Even if the results Will be clear, maybe it wont be.
I am seriously thinking of bringing him to Ringosclinic oranother exotic vet who is willing to try todo an x-ray. He aint all that experienced but he Works for like7 or something years, so he aint that bad or Young either.
Just another stupid question maybe, but..can they x-ray pig in a box.. or did i see wrong??? How do you and your vets x-ray the pig...
Cause Ringo s vets would easily x-ray Irie in his box if that is possible or if he s eating the food he doesnt move anyway. We would see in photo if something is wrong or i can sent it to you and you to check as well:). I saw its usually seen on both views not just front. Like really if i call some Young vet now, he s really kind he would do it straight away, but he is a dog vet.
Just another stupid question maybe, but..can they x-ray pig in a box.. or did i see wrong??? How do you and your vets x-ray the pig...
Cause Ringo s vets would easily x-ray Irie in his box if that is possible or if he s eating the food he doesnt move anyway. We would see in photo if something is wrong or i can sent it to you and you to check as well:). I saw its usually seen on both views not just front. Like really if i call some Young vet now, he s really kind he would do it straight away, but he is a dog vet.
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Sef
- I dissent.
Our vet just gently restrains the guinea pig (or has a vet tech do it). We have never had anesthesia given for x-rays. I know some vets do it, but ours does not. And yes, two views (top and side) generally give the best chance at seeing a stone if it's there.
As bpatters points out in another thread, though, this is not heavy sedation -- it's just a "wiff" (as she aptly describes it), which is enough to provide a light sedation that calms the animal enough to get a good image.
As bpatters points out in another thread, though, this is not heavy sedation -- it's just a "wiff" (as she aptly describes it), which is enough to provide a light sedation that calms the animal enough to get a good image.
Thanks we cant risk even a wiff with on going bordetella infection is its not 100%needed. I was hoping we ll manage to get someone to do it without it. One is..but as i said..he s not that experienced-so if i wanted him to do it i have to take risk all goes well.
If not else, we ll have to wait if he ll be crying more and than go back to our vets and said its not okay at all. I ll be as focused as it gets and ask for an x-ray and explanation why he is crying if stones Will be proven not to be a reason and not talk stupid stuff.
I puttoo much love, time and in the end money in the pig to just let it go. But yeah its a shame they re the only ones who know enough about pigs-other options are all worse bit of Freestyle. OF course we can use them and we Will if it wont be other option but i am not a fan. Another problem is others in Slovenia-they do not put enough time&money in pigs so I am kind of unusual as it gets, but I cant and wont solve gunnea pigs problems in our contrey. Even fighting for Irie is exausting enough..
If not else, we ll have to wait if he ll be crying more and than go back to our vets and said its not okay at all. I ll be as focused as it gets and ask for an x-ray and explanation why he is crying if stones Will be proven not to be a reason and not talk stupid stuff.
I puttoo much love, time and in the end money in the pig to just let it go. But yeah its a shame they re the only ones who know enough about pigs-other options are all worse bit of Freestyle. OF course we can use them and we Will if it wont be other option but i am not a fan. Another problem is others in Slovenia-they do not put enough time&money in pigs so I am kind of unusual as it gets, but I cant and wont solve gunnea pigs problems in our contrey. Even fighting for Irie is exausting enough..
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