- I dissent.
Just the latest atrocity against innocent civilians, and it will not be the last. As I said earlier, this is not going to end well---at least not for the people of Ukraine. We have only to bitch and moan about paying $5 a gallon at the pump.
- Cavies 'n Cobwebs
It’s been interesting following the flight tracker apps. Obviously those flights that are not meant to be seen aren’t, but there is a clear showing of solidarity with those of the various militaries. The large USAF unmanned surveillance drones patrolling the Black Sea, Ukrainian and Polish borders. The UK RAF and USAF fighter planes going through their paces around the UK coast and Cyprus then appearing briefly in Romania, Poland and Bulgaria later that day before ‘disappearing’. The US and UK supertankers however, continue their circling so must be providing fuel for something before following a lone fighter or two back to base. There has been almost daily flights from the Dutch military, German, Italian, Turkish, Bulgarian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Canadian and the Baltic states making their presence known. IMHO Putin is goading NATO but thankfully we all have enough self control not to give him any excuse and as much as the Ukraine want the skies closed, it will draw in Putin more. The thinking is he’ll go chemical as he did in Syria and nuclear is last resort. There was also reports of ex special forces groups going out from UK to train the Ukrainians in tactics and target practice.
Even though we don’t import much oil or gas from Russia, the knock-on effect is serious. My current gas/petrol price is £1.65 per litre. Converting to gallons and dollars it works out at $9.80 per gallon. Diesel is even more expensive.
Pales into insignificance when watching the news reports from further east in Europe. :-(
This is an interesting article, Webs. What do you think of it?
Just my opinion but China has their own agenda with clear objectives for it's future and they don't include not being able to trade with the West. They understand economic power is the real might, while Russia has believed that making 200 or so Putin buddies multi - billionaires and then kicking back half to him can get enough money to fight a war, for a week or so maybe but they have nothing to get it done with. They have absolutely nothing militarily speaking. I watched a video of a helicopter shot down the other day by a very simple infrared missile. It took no evasive action, it had no time to plot a firing solution, nothing, absolutely nothing, it could have been a drone for target practice. Several of our generational helicopters would have destroyed the missile site seconds after that system was even turned on.
I read above that Putin's willingness to fight dirty is of concern. Don't underestimate the Ukrainian people. They weren't real nice during World War II, they are perfectly capable of matching anything Putin wishes to do. Don't forget that when the Nazis were even sickened by the concentration camp brutality it was The Ukrainians they hired to do the job, they didn't have a problem doing it.
China and Nukes, that's the real concern here. By itself Russia will not take The Ukraine, it's clear they aren't capable, they are bumbling along, outrunning their supply lines, the logistics are ridiculously bad, Their pilots! Oh my God I saw a couple that were taken prisoner, they re like 60 years old with huge guts, their top level attack fighter jets would have needed modifications to just to fit the pilots in the cockpits. They re good but... old
As for special forces training the Ukrainians, that's been going on for a while and of course continues, we don't call them special forces though, they have to "quit" the military for a while, take off their dog tags, and they then become "citizens" on their own helping out, yet some how get really good amounts of money deposited in their bank accounts by companies you've never heard of, that is how it works.
- Catie Cavy
- Supporter 2011-2020