Baytril (enrofloxacin) Primer

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Post   » Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:16 am

Thanks. He was my first sick pick and my first pig to pass on. I definitely feel that if he had been with me he may be alive today. He was supposed to move back in with me in early October.


Post   » Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:14 pm

My dog is on Baytril chewable tablets for her third UTI in as many months. The past two UTI's were treated with Clavamox. She's also been switched to bottled water as the pipes in this old apartment are questionable as well.

Since she's been on the batryil I've definitely noticed some behavioral changes. She's just not acting like herself. She's much more jumpy and hyper and when going outside to potty she'll just stop and stare off into space. Because of this her usual 5 minute walks to finish her toilet needs has extended to 20 minutes or more now. She still have 5 more days of antibiotics to go. Hopefully she'll go back to her normal self when the drugs leave her system and I hope this is her last UTI!



Post   » Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:20 pm

Clavamox is Penicillin. Baytril isn't usually the best for UTIs. It seems sulfa based drugs are more effective. How about you ask your vet to culture the urine, identify the bacteria and maybe switch her to Bactrim (or another sulfa drug)?

If you think Baytril is bad, I hope you never have to put her on Prednisone. that's justa nightmare of a drug!!!


Post   » Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:03 pm

I'll be taking a urine sample to be tested in the next day or two to make sure the infection is gone. If its not gone I will have it cultured and her AB switched. For now I think I'll just continue with the Baytril as her symptoms have cleared up.

Clavamox is actually Augmentin or amoxicillin with potassium added if memory serves me correctly, which I was put on in the past for a UTI of my own. Which I also found impossible to keep down. After two days of vomiting it right back up, my doctor then switched me to something starting with a B. Is Bactrim called Bactrim in human medicine as well? All I remember is that I only had to take one pill every 24 hours for about 4 days and the UTI symptoms cleared up about 12 hours after the first pill.


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GL is Just Peachy

Post   » Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:31 pm

Augmentin is amoxicillin plus potassium clavulanate, and it works for my ear infections.

Seffy, do you think you were on Biaxin?

Get on your bike.

Post   » Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:47 pm

Bactrim is given for human UTI's. In fact, I take it as a prophylactic when needed for my infections.


Post   » Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:21 pm

Clavamox is actually Augmentin or amoxicillin with potassium added if memory serves me correctly

Exactly my point. Amoxicillin is Penicillin-based. And so are the other ABs ending in "cillin".

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Post   » Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:58 am

Is there anything in baytril ear drops besides baytril?

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Cavies 'n Cobwebs

Post   » Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:44 am

The first vet I ever went to prescribed injectible Baytril for 2 of my pigs. Both got severe diarrhea, one died the other had to be put to sleep after various complications because of it. This prompted me to find out more about pigs myself and also find another vet, although they are probably still carrying on as before.

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Post   » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:04 am

What was wrong with them? What was his diagnosis? Do you know how much baytril they were given? Are you positive it was baytril and not amoxicillin? Just curious, as generally baytril does not cause severe diarrhea. If it was given in too large amounts it might but also, injected would have less effect.

Without all the facts, it's hard to know if the baytril was at fault or not. I'm sorry you lost them. I think it's important to learn all you can so you can recognize a good vet when you find one.

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Cavies 'n Cobwebs

Post   » Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:33 pm

This was a few years back and my memory may fail me here as I used to keep all the info in a diary but I'm sure I threw it out after the pigs died and I got a new vet. Perhaps not very bright but it was how I felt at the time.

Pig 1 - biggest nightmare and biggest disappointment in UK vet care! (Large practice, reputedly 'best in town' - yeah, right).
Scooter was originally taken to the vet with bloat/gas. I didn't know as much then as I do now so had no simethicone or anything to catch it in time (or internet access either for that matter!). The first vet I saw was more interested in discussing the previous client with her students that were there at the time. She said this will 'flush it out' and gave Scooter an injection (not sure what it was - didn't get any answer at the time). The gp had diarrhea so altered food accordingly and the bloat went.

A few days later, back for a check up and also to see about Scooter's poorer appetite, saw a different vet who decided an injection of Baytril should clear up any lingering problem - how she came to this diagnosis I've no idea - and also decided to trim Scooter's teeth as she said it may contribute to the appetite problem. Instant diarrhea and very weak pig who could not feed herself now as her incisors were trimmed.

Feeling way out my depth now but I knew enough to hand feed her mushed pellet mix and veggies and little bits of hay. A few days later, back for another check up, Scooter seemed to be picking up, poops better and a little stronger. A third vet who is looking through a large medical book says ' I'm not really that familiar with guinea pigs, but the Baytril seemed to do the trick last time, we'll give it one more shot'.

More diarrhea, can't get it cleared up so went back to vet. Saw vet no.2 again who gave another shot of Baytril. Scooter went downhill fast. Couldn't clear the diarrhea and this time Scooter gave up. Refused to eat and became like a rag.

Last appointment for a check up was to put her to sleep as she had become paralysed in her back end. Guess what - a fourth vet who I guess had never euthanaised an animal before and seemed more traumatised by it than I was. Perhaps the Baytril didn't kill Scooter as much as misdiagnosis but I think the dose must have had something to do with it - sorry no figures. And also 4 different vets in 5 visits in 10 days saw no continuity in her treatment (in my opinion).

Pig 2
Miss P had suspected cystitis (squeaking while peeing etc). Saw vet (sorry, same practice) who decided Baytril was best course of action. After telling her the nightmare with Scooter and suggesting that as Miss P was a full sister, the Baytril may not agree with her, I got told not to be silly and that Baytril was the only one safe for gps anyway so didn't really have a choice. One injection later, got home, one very unhappy pig, diarrhea and loss of appetite.

Did what I had done with Scooter re handfeeding and a few days later, back for a check up. Surprise surprise, different vet - same Baytril jab. Really bad diarrhea, nursed Miss P for a few days and was looking into getting a new vet. Poor Miss P died overnight.

It was definitely Baytril they were given as I had a fear of it when I had Dusty and she was diagnosed with a URI and they said Baytril and I said NO! But my new vet gave it in oral form as a week's course and a little syringe and there was no problem at all.

So, new vet, new pigs, lots more information!

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Post   » Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:40 pm

Somehow I don't think they were giving baytril (or it was a very very high dose). In all the time I've been here, I don't remember baytril causing immediate and severe diarrhea. I think they gave something else (or at least gave the wrong dosage).

But it certainly seems like they screwed up badly. It must have been a terribly sad time for you.

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